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Farewell !

Post by Elodie » 23 Aug 2018, 18:42

This is my very last post on the forum.

Some people may have noticed my silence on TVPaint forums since February. It would be too long to tell you why, but the fact is : former CEO Fabrice Debarge was dismissed by major shareholders after we returned from the Annie Award Ceremony. It's been tough times, my health's got compromised and I haven't been working for TVPaint since.

After 9 years of commitment toward TVPaint Développement, my job in the company is officially over. My contract with the company ended 2 days ago on my 30th birthday, that's something ! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nevertheless, it's been a great adventure ! I'm quite sad about the way it ends, but I won't regret anything. I'm glad that I shared so many years with a fistfull of amazing colleagues, had to travel all around the world and met so many talented international artists. It's been a true pleasure to be your contact, and I hope we will have other opportunities to see each other and even work together again.

Now, I feel like a foster mom whose the child went back to his family : my job is done, but I'll love that kid forever. So, dear ex-customers, dear friends : if you ever have the time to leave me a recommendation on LinkedIn (hey, I must find a new job now), it would be much appreciated !

Thank you all and keep doing great animations ! ❤

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Post by D.T. Nethery » 24 Aug 2018, 02:14

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Elodie, I'm glad you have spoken . This is very sad for me .

Thanks for all the help you and Fabrice have given me over the years. Please email me to stay in touch .

TVPaint Development, I think you could at least acknowledge this major change instead of just "pretending" it did not happen.
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Post by Hironori Takagi » 24 Aug 2018, 07:30

When I visited France I have been very memorable what you kindly had from you.
I think there are various reasons for retirement, but I expect the future success.

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Post by Sewie » 24 Aug 2018, 10:32

Wow, I must admit that I am a little upset..!

I always assumed that the team was too busy after winning that Ubi Iwerks prize in february, but now I read that things have taken a turn for the worse...?! It feels extremely unfair to me since you are both such an important part of TVP's success! And a little worrying, to be honest...

I don't know what happened but I am so sorry to hear you are leaving Elodie, and sorry to hear that Fabrice has left as well. I sincerely hope you both will be alright and that you will stay in touch somehow.
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Post by VGmaster9 » 24 Aug 2018, 14:47

Any reason why Fabrice was dismissed?

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Post by Sewie » 24 Aug 2018, 14:51

VGmaster9 wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 14:47
Any reason why Fabrice was dismissed?
I am wondering the same thing...
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Post by Fabrice » 24 Aug 2018, 21:16

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Hello everyone,

As I no longer have access to my email box, and not knowing if my tvpaint email address even still exists, I am using this mean of communication.

There hasn't been any post from my on the forum since the Annie Awards ceremony (if you haven't seen it, here it is : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOs1G7_y4A ). You should also know that this message will probably be the last after no less than 10,000 posts in the company's different message boards.

Here are the latest events I had to deal with:

For the last 4 years (almost), my job was to be TVPaint Développement's co-Executive-Manager, in charge of conception and marketing of software.

A few days before the Annie Awards ceremony (February 3rd 2018), where we would be receiving the Ub Iwerks Award for our technological achievements, I discovered that, unbeknownst to me, an extraordinary general assembly of shareholders would be happening two weeks later, in order to dismiss me from my functions of co-Executive-Manager.

Preparing the ceremony was a great honor, but it was also extremely painful because of the directives of the major shareholders, who were opposed to any procedure related to opening offices abroad (USA and Japan). These contradictory directives caused an enormous stress.
There were together … sentences to change into our speech, a teleprompter that wasn't updated in due course, some additionnal stress due to the crowd and cameras, … and all of this in the situation of a probable dismiss… look again at the video, you surely noticed my hesitations when speaking !

On February 16th 2018, after nearly 3 hours of discussions, I was dismissed by the major shareholders despite the company's excellent results, and the accomplishment of my financial and technological goals.
This decision, with everything that led to it and what followed it, have greatly impacted my health, which explains why I haven't been able to work nor to communicate with you since it happened.

I became a normal employee of the company once again, and on August 20th 2018 I was fired from it.

And now ?

It is now up to the new management, in place since February 16th 2018, to decide what the furure of the company will be and how the software will evolve. But, from all my heart, I hope, for all of the community, that what was planned on the technological side will see the light of day.

Even if I wish to do so, thanking every person nominally (with a word for each of you) would be too long and you are so many that I'd risk forgetting someone !

Nevertheless, here is what I can say:

- To students : your progress and talent during your studies were gemstones to discover and polish.

- To animators, and our beta-testers : your movies were our mission, our reward and gave me energy in our most difficult times.

- To my former colleagues : our team was a fantastic one, I wish you to have more moments like the ones we had together.

- Generally speaking, to all users of the software : I wish you all the best in your projects, current and future ! Thanks for your warm welcome everywhere on the planet. Thanks for your kindness, your advice, our passionated debates on the future of technology and 2D animation. I will never forget you. From now on, I will watch your art as a simple spectator, after having studied them as a technician.

- And, lastly, for those wondering if, during the ceremony, it was wise to say, after lots of hesitations and rectifications, that "… this would provide a better opportunity to work hand in hand with people eager to bring back the golden age of 2D Animation »." :
Know that, on a personal note, even if I don't know yet how it will look like, my long-term objective remains unchanged : ensuring that Animation will continue to shine as bright as possible.
And believe me, I have never been more determined.

Here we go then, after my colleagues Tiphaine, Nicolas, Ahmed, Claudine, Eric Scholl, Thomas and Elodie, that have all said farewell their way (emails, forum, skype, etc.), it is now my turn to say that….

" What's done is done ! "

Thank you again for everything !

Fabrice.

PS : for anyone that wishes to keep in contact with me, and wishes to know how I am doing, you can use LinkedIn's message system, any recommendation is welcome.
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Spoiler : Français :

Bonjour à tous,

N’ayant plus accès à ma boite email et ne sachant pas si mon adresse email existe toujours ou pas, j’utilise ce moyen de communication.

Il n’y a pas eu de post de ma part dans le forum depuis la cérémonie des Annie Award ( ici si vous ne l’avez pas vue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOs1G7_y4A ). Aussi sachez que ce message sera donc probablement le dernier après pas moins de 10.000 posts dans les différents forums de l’entreprise ...

Voici donc les derniers événements me concernant :

Depuis quasiment 4 ans, ma fonction était d’être le co-gérant de l’entreprise TVPaint Développement, en charge de la conception et la commercialisation des logiciels.

Quelques jours avant la cérémonie des Annie Award du 3 Février 2018, où nous devions recevoir le prix UB Iwerks pour nos accomplissements technologiques, j’ai appris qu’une assemblée générale était convoquée 15 jours plus tard à mon insu pour me révoquer de mon mandat de co-gérant.

Si préparer la cérémonie fut un immense honneur, cela fut aussi extrêmement pénible à cause des contraintes des associés majoritaires qui se sont opposés à toute démarche en rapport avec l’ouverture de bureaux à l’étranger (USA et Japon). Ces directives contradictoires ont provoqué un stress énorme.
Modifications du discours à la hâte, mais texte du prompteur pas mis-à-jour le moment venu, stress dû à la foule et aux caméras, contexte de révocation probable … vous avez sûrement remarqué mes quelques hésitations au moment de prendre la parole !

Le 16 Février 2018, après quasiment 3 heures de discussions, j’ai été révoqué par les associés majoritaires de l’entreprise en dépit des excellents résultats de celle-ci et de l’accomplissement de mes objectifs financiers et technologiques.
Cette décision, ainsi que tous les événements qui l’ont précédée et suivie, ont fortement impacté ma santé, ce qui explique que je n’ai pu ni travailler ni communiquer avec vous depuis.

Redevenu simple salarié de l’entreprise, j’en ai été licencié le 20 août 2018.

Et maintenant ?

C’est désormais à la nouvelle direction, en place depuis le 16 Février 2018, de décider du futur de l’entreprise et des évolutions du logiciel. Mais de tout cœur, j’espère pour toute la communauté d’utilisateurs que tout ce qui était en préparation sur le plan technologique verra bien le jour.

Même si l’envie est là, je ne peux remercier chaque personne nommément avec une anecdote qui lui serait propre, vous seriez trop nombreux et je risquerai d’oublier quelqu’un !
Voici ce que je peux néanmoins dire :

- Aux étudiants : vos progrès et votre talent pendant vos études ont été autant de pierres précieuses à découvrir et à polir.

- Aux animateurs de métier, aux béta-testeurs : vos films ont été notre mission, notre récompense et notre carburant dans les moments difficiles.

- A tous les collègues de travail : notre équipe était fantastique, je vous souhaite de vivre encore beaucoup de moment comme ceux que nous avons passés ensemble.

- Plus généralement, à vous tous utilisateurs du logiciel : je vous souhaite à tous le meilleur dans vos projets présents et à venir ! Merci pour la façon dont vous m’avez accueilli aux quatre coins de la planète. Merci pour votre gentillesse, pour vos conseils, pour nos débats sur l’avenir de la technologie et de l’animation 2D. Je ne vous oublierai jamais. Dorénavant, je regarderai vos œuvres comme un simple spectateur après les avoir étudiées comme un technicien.

- Enfin, pour ceux qui se demandent si lors de la cérémonie il était bien opportun de dire après bien des hésitations et rectifications que :
«… this would provide a better opportunity to work hand in hand with people eager to bring back the golden age of 2D Animation ».
Sachez qu’à titre personnel, même si j’ignore encore la forme que cela prendra, mon objectif à long-terme reste inchangé : faire rayonner l’animation dans le monde.
Et croyez-moi : je n’ai jamais été aussi déterminé.

Voilà, à la suite de mes collègues Tiphaine, Nicolas, Ahmed, Claudine, Eric Scholl, Thomas et Elodie qui ont tous dit au revoir à leur façon (Email, Forum, Skype, etc.) c’est à mon tour de vous dire que …

« Ce qui est fait est fait ! »

Merci encore pour tout !

Fabrice.

PS : pour ceux qui souhaiteraient garder mon contact à titre privé et savoir ce que je deviens, utilisez la messagerie du réseau social LinkedIn, toute recommandation sera la bienvenue !
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Re: Farewell !

Post by Sewie » 24 Aug 2018, 21:55

Thank you, Fabrice, for taking the time to inform us about these developments.

It saddens me to read that such a large part of the team has left after doing such great work for so long a time. The software has progressed so much over the last years and I was really looking forward to where it was going to go next with such a competent team at the helm. Alas, I am so sorry!

But, if I understand you correctly, you were dismissed because of the following...?:
Fabrice wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 21:16
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...the directives of the major shareholders, who were opposed to any procedure related to opening offices abroad (USA and Japan).
....
Shareholders (I never knew TVPaint even had those) who don't want to expand??
USA and Japan are the logical next step for TVPaint's expansion because of their huge animation industries and your shareholders DO NOT want that...? Are they Russians by any chance...???
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Post by Eric Scholl » 24 Aug 2018, 22:04

Hey everybody !

It seems this is the place for farewells, so I'm joining the party... yeah...
Like Elodie and Fabrice, this will be my last post on the forum.

For those who don't know me, I was a developper at TVPaint for 7 years, developping the Linux version of TVPaint and huge well-know functionnalities in the software, like the CTG Layer, the V11 new deformation tool, the Texturizer, the Brush Spreading and Inlay texture FXs, or the Share Manager for example.
Sadly, I had to leave TVPaint about 2 months ago. I made my decision because of Fabrice dismissal, as it also affected my health.

These 7 years were really intense and I have no regrets.
Meeting everyone at Annecy, discussing and sharing with you on the forum, giving workshops with Elodie, Fabrice, Claudine and Tiphaine all around the world, contributing to the world-wide animation industry from my small desk at Metz... I take all of these as gifts. It was litteraly a Journey through Creativity :wink: .

You all made me live in a dream for 7 years, so my last words for you here will be an enormous : THANK YOU !

Like Elodie and Fabrice, if you wish to stay in contact with me, you can connect to my LinkedIn(https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-scholl-52abb63a/), I will accept without hesitation.
Keep sharing dreams through your animations and farewell.

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Post by Sewie » 24 Aug 2018, 22:12

Eric Scholl wrote:
24 Aug 2018, 22:04
...

For those who don't know me, I was a developper at TVPaint for 7 years, developping the Linux version of TVPaint and huge well-know functionnalities in the software, like the CTG Layer, the V11 new deformation tool, the Texturizer, the Brush Spreading and Inlay texture FXs, or the Share Manager for example.
Sadly, I had to leave TVPaint about 2 months ago. I made my decision because of Fabrice dismissal, as it also affected my health.

...

Sounds like you guys were put under lot of stress you did not deserve. I hope you are all recovering now.
Thank you, Eric. I have often made use of your inventions, they've helped me solve a lot of problems. I wish you all the luck with your future efforts!
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Post by CartoonMonkey » 25 Aug 2018, 08:26

Thank you Elodie, Fabrice and all. I have had a very heavy heart surrounding this situation. I hope you will stay in contact and say hello from time to time.
Please take care and stay in touch.
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Re: Farewell !

Post by Robobob » 25 Aug 2018, 10:26

I was unaware of all this until this morning.
Quite shocking and upsetting news.

A huge thanks to everybody, Elodie, Fabrice and the rest.
I can only imagine how you must feel.
I've experienced working on a film and being laid off all of a sudden due to financial problems so I know to some extent unfortunately.

I wish you all the best for the future, you deserve to continue what you did in one way or another.
I do hope that the software will continue to develop and thrive but I'm quite worried since you guys were such a huge part of it.
It also just pains me to see the people responsable for enabling all of us to create all sorts of different projects in the medium we love no longer being a part of it.

Very strange reasoning if indeed the decision to open offices abroad was the reason behind this.
It seemed like such a logical step with Japan having such a huge traditional animation industry and the US also has plenty of opportunities for 2d animation to be implemented and perhaps to revive.

All the best yet again to you all.
Take care of yourself and your health.
Thats most important at the moment.

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Post by matstegner » 25 Aug 2018, 11:48

Farewell Elodie, Eric and Fabrice. I am also looking for a new job after the producer left the short film me and my colleague Jens were working on in TVPaint. I also lost my office in May. Good luck with your job searches.
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Post by Jet » 25 Aug 2018, 21:36

This news hasn't gone down well at my office, Elodie and Fabrice were a big part of the reason we adopted TVPaint.

Seemed like TVPaint, Wit Studio, Tatsunoko Pro, Signal MD, Studio Colorido, etc. were successfully managing a digital revolution and education programme in Japan, undoubtedly Elodie and Fabrice seem to be a big part of that, things were shifting as far back as 2010. What a shame, fired over what seems to me to be a logical expansion.

Thanks and all the best, I hope you move on to greater things, or that the shareholders come their senses...

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Re: Farewell !

Post by Cardin Collins » 26 Aug 2018, 16:24

-Why has no one from the current TVPaint team made a statement assuring the community that, despite the unfortunate loss of such talented people, TVPaint Développement is committed to advancing the software and will continue to innovate, update, and refine the software through version 12 and beyond?
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