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What softwares you are using?

Post by rawhead » 18 Jul 2008, 17:30

TVP and Mirage, which i use, are very comprehensives. Is there some softwares "better" for sometype of animation than something else? Well, 3D of course can´t be done with Mirage :p.

I´ve tested at school CTP. I think it was great for classic, handdrawanimation. I like it´s quick and simple x-sheet, and color/line-art "layers". So coloring works fine. But CTP was expensive with just few features. And there was bugs and some illogical functions i think.

So i´ve think to buy Flipbook to animate basic 2D, haven´t yet test how it´s scanning and coloring handdrawn lineart works.

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Well, change the topic for talking more generally about softwares, you are using.
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 18 Jul 2008, 17:50

I'm a little familiar with Flip Book and I actually know the guy who created it. He once developed another animation program I sadly bought, called AXA ($ 3,000 back about 15 years ago) which quickly folded and he came out with Flip Book, which was from the beginning aimed at the younger school-age children. .... I stopped here to take a look at it and don't recognize anything on Google that could be the Flip Book I'm thinking of -- there seem to be a whole bunch of related products under that name so I'm staying out of this one.

What I do want to say though, is that you are asking the wrong question for this website, which is the owner/developer's official site. Most of the people here wouldn't be here if they thought poorly of TVP. It's not illegal to ask this type of question on any owner's website, but most people would consider it unethical.
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Peter Wassink » 18 Jul 2008, 18:23

luckily you can freely speak about ******** here
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 18 Jul 2008, 18:41

Yeah??? Let me try it: ********

EDIT: I'll be darn; you're right. :shock:
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Klaus Hoefs » 18 Jul 2008, 18:55

All through a semester I am confronted with this kind of suggestions: (" I heard xxx is easier, why don't we use yyy ?, zzz has all this plugins, no need for hard work which has to be done in xxx") Most of them seek refuge in flight to cover one's own issues or to avoid to have one's own matters to deal with. So they are looking left and right all the time.
Of course this must not be you ( I really don't know you ...).
But if you have already Mirage or any newer version, I can't see a reason to go with a cutdown product. I've seen and tested PAP, Flipbook and worked a longer time with Moho/Anime Studio, ToonBoom and had to go years with Flash. If it comes to handdrawn animation Mirage/TVP is simply the best, even the STd-version.

(And we have also ******** here )
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Post by Hervé » 18 Jul 2008, 19:13

Paul Fierlinger wrote:Yeah??? Let me try it: ********
EDIT: I'll be darn; you're right. :shock:
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by rawhead » 18 Jul 2008, 21:05

Klaus Hoefs wrote: But if you have already Mirage or any newer version, I can't see a reason to go with a cutdown product. I've seen and tested PAP, Flipbook and worked a longer time with Moho/Anime Studio, ToonBoom and had to go years with Flash. If it comes to handdrawn animation Mirage/TVP is simply the best, even the STd-version.
Thank you, i trust your word, Maybe i´d upgrade Mirage into TVP someday :mrgreen:
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Julian wigley » 19 Jul 2008, 08:57

It's not Project Dogwaffle, so I give up. :oops:

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Post by slowtiger » 19 Jul 2008, 09:03

But if you have already Mirage or any newer version, I can't see a reason to go with a cutdown product. I've seen and tested PAP, Flipbook and worked a longer time with Moho/Anime Studio, ToonBoom and had to go years with Flash. If it comes to handdrawn animation Mirage/TVP is simply the best, even the STd-version.
Can't agree more. I should add that there are always different tools for different purposes, so it's not a good question to ask for "animation" in general. Do you draw? Do cut-outs? Stop motion? Use video? Need lots of FX? For every style there's a program or a combination of several programs which works better than others.
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by rawhead » 19 Jul 2008, 12:13

slowtiger wrote: Can't agree more. I should add that there are always different tools for different purposes, so it's not a good question to ask for "animation" in general. Do you draw? Do cut-outs? Stop motion? Use video? Need lots of FX? For every style there's a program or a combination of several programs which works better than others.
Yes! , You got the my point :D. Sorry all , for my bad english and i´m generally poor at writing things and in english it not make it easier. So i excatly thinking that, can this superb software make it everything?

So it better just ask:
"What softwares you are using?"
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by slowtiger » 19 Jul 2008, 12:28

"What softwares you are using?"
Mirage/TVP for drawn bitmap animation and anything scanned in.
Moho/Anime Studio for vector based 2D animation, cut-outs, and some simple 3D manipulation. Also for complex camera movements.
AfterFX for FX if necessary (haven't used it for years now).
Elastic Reality for morphs.
Photoshop for photo manipulation and background art, if those aren't created in TVP.
Logic for composition, Audacity for quick recordings. FinalCut or iMovie for editing.
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Re: What softwares you are using?

Post by Julian wigley » 22 Jul 2008, 11:14

This is all a bit obscure and inside chatter for me. So can someone put me out of misery and tell me what the "expletive purged" is ******** software!
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Re: What softwares you are using?

Post by Peter Wassink » 22 Jul 2008, 16:42

Julian wigley wrote:This is all a bit obscure and inside chatter for me. So can someone put me out of misery and tell me what the "expletive purged" is ******** software!
Jules
obviously you already typed it, so why do you still ask !?
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Re: What softwares you are using?

Post by Julian wigley » 23 Jul 2008, 10:13

Peter,
It is easy to type eight little "*" . (Yes, I counted them)
Stuffed if I know what it means :? - so how about a hint, or is that just too hard?
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Re: Experiences about another animation softwares?

Post by Peter Wassink » 23 Jul 2008, 10:47

i don't know what they mean for others Julian.
Tantalus wrote:luckily you can freely speak about ******** here
in my case the *'s stand for
A N Y T H I N G
as opposed to the 'other' forum where you couldn't talk about TVPaint because that letter combination would produce a sequence of *'s in the post

sorry for letting you be miserable about something so trivial, it was reluctance to kill the joke by explaining it
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