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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Fake Pilot » 22 Jan 2013, 16:20

The thing is, there is so much more to sound than just words. It's personality and emotion.
A french accent doesn't really matter? Would sound charming, I think. :-)

I feel tempted in doing one myself for TVP, but I don't know the software enough to do it.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by idragosani » 22 Jan 2013, 18:00

To be honest, even though I am a native English speaker, I like tutorials that don't have narration, especially if the video is long... narrators tend to start rambling and it's easy to get bored and sleepy. A short, focused tutorial with on-screen indicators like arrows, circles, etc., so you can pause it and see the details of what is being done is very helpful, and you are more likely to remember stuff more if you *see* it than just hear it.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 22 Jan 2013, 18:06

1+ :mrgreen:
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by ematecki » 23 Jan 2013, 08:18

I don't even have speakers plugged in my MacPro.

A computer is here to do the tedious work (and me the fun work, at least in theory :) and not annoy me with blings/pongs/pows/etc... :)
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 23 Jan 2013, 08:41

blings/pongs/pows/etc... :)
save lives.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Fake Pilot » 23 Jan 2013, 08:48

OK, ok.. Sound seem discomforting and annoying. Still, you can turn it off.
Back to topic. You all probably love the osx styled buttons too?
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Mads Juul » 23 Jan 2013, 09:00

I like sound on tutorials. When I worked on mac I didn't like the "OSX styled" buttons. But I don't work on mac anymore.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 23 Jan 2013, 09:28

Of course tutorials without sound need text so turning off sound where there is no text makes no sense. I prefer tutorials with text only because I can pause wherever needed and follow through on my software at my own pace, then play the tutorial further, pause, watch and read, and follow through...
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by ematecki » 24 Jan 2013, 08:34

Paul Fierlinger wrote:
blings/pongs/pows/etc... :)
save lives.
OK, my brain was too numb yesterday after being stormed for 3 hours straight, to understand :)

It isn't really dangerous to walk in front of my MacPro without noticing it's presence.
It's a different thing in front of my moving car :)

They are already laws in preparation to make electric cars MORE noisy :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_v ... ing_sounds

That's why LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES :)
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Post by Paul Fierlinger » 24 Jan 2013, 11:33

I am aware of this phenomenon with electric cars, because I am featuring Edison's Electric car from 1901 in my current film. I found on YouTube a still running one in existence and all you can hear are the soft footsteps of the cameraman walking along with it. BTW this car still runs on its original battery! Maybe electric car makers could use the sounds of a Mac computer to annoy pedestrians to step aside.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by ematecki » 24 Jan 2013, 12:36

I read somewhere there is some kind of "contest" in the US to choose the noise electric cars should make.
I don't know the details, but maybe you can make an entry with MacOSX noises :)
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by Elodie » 24 Jan 2013, 12:37

Paul Fierlinger wrote:Maybe electric car makers could use the sounds of a Mac computer to annoy pedestrians to step aside.
Oh no, lots of people will run on the road and will search for the Mac.
... well, after all, it would a good way to let the natural selection act. :mrgreen:
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by schwarzgrau » 30 Jan 2013, 17:23

I don't like the OSX-styled buttons too.
Maybe a whole interface redesign could be an idea, anyway. I often get some ideas, how some details could be better, while working in TVpaint.
For instance I really like what blender did with their interface. It's clean, simple and really easy to put everything everywhere, where you like it.
blender 2.49
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But I guess it would took a laaaaarge amount of time or money, or both to redesign TVpaint from the ground up.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by slowtiger » 30 Jan 2013, 18:26

Blender is not a good example at all. They improved a bit from former versions, but still are far from intuitive. At least they changed that terrible 2.62 where it wasn't even clear wether an element was a title, a button, or a window top.
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Re: Remove "OSX styled" buttons

Post by schwarzgrau » 30 Jan 2013, 19:11

You're absolutely right, blenders interface is far from intuitive. But there system allows you to show only what you need, where you need it.
Anyway it's not a good idea to compare a 2D animation software with a 3D software.
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