faux fixe ping pong is never possible on two's

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faux fixe ping pong is never possible on two's

Post by furushil » 25 Aug 2015, 19:33

Hello,

for quite a while now I noticed that the faux-fixe "ping-pong" option never works when the exposure of a frame is greater then 1.
So if the animation is on "2s" it never works right.

I perfectly understand why it is not working but I was also wondering if this could get fixed somehow.
Would it be possible that the faux-fixe takes the exposure of a frame into account and would someone find this also useful?

Right now if the frames go like this -> 11-22-33-44 (blue for second exposure) the ping pong will be 11223344-433221-11223344
The right way obviously would be 11223344-3322-11223344
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Re: faux fixe ping pong is never possible on two's

Post by habashtvpaint » 31 Aug 2015, 01:37

Thank furushil for addressing this. it has been a confusing feature but very necessary still. so it will be great to see it enhanced at some point.

I generally find it confusing that applying the repeat function will apply above the last frame exposure! like this:
001.jpg
Current repetition
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I suggest a better visual representation to indicate that the previous sequence is repeated (it can be in a new frame exposure with maybe slight colour change of the repeated frames, or an icon within the repeated frames) please see some suggestions here

for loop
loop01.jpg
repeat suggestion 'loop'
loop01.jpg (36.75 KiB) Viewed 5084 times
for pingpong
pingpong01.jpg
repeat suggestion 'pingpong'
pingpong01.jpg (37.76 KiB) Viewed 5084 times
for random... I had fund making this icon to be similar to TVP style :)
random01.jpg
repeat suggestion 'random'
random01.jpg (37.26 KiB) Viewed 5084 times
in addition, at the moment if you break the instance of a repeated exposure it results on new frames of only the first image of the repeated sequence, like this:
bake01.jpg
current bake
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the ability to bake the repetition would be great too! don't you think?

Thanks
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Re: faux fixe ping pong is never possible on two's

Post by furushil » 31 Aug 2015, 08:15

I generally only have a problem with the ping pong because it is not working properly when the animation is on 2s.

The little symbols next to the repeat number would be an improvement I guess. I personally always know what kind of repeat I used but if I would give my scene to someone else, it would be more clear to them which repeat option was used.
habashtvpaint wrote:the ability to bake the repetition would be great too! don't you think?
This is actually possible. You have to do the following: Start at the end of the repeat and just make a small dot with the eraser somewhere to break the instance. Select the rest of the repeat and hit enter. (Auto-break should be on for this)
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Re: faux fixe ping pong is never possible on two's

Post by habashtvpaint » 31 Aug 2015, 08:44

furushil wrote: Start at the end of the repeat and just make a small dot with the eraser somewhere to break the instance. Select the rest of the repeat and hit enter. (Auto-break should be on for this)
I didn't know that, pretty forward I feel silly not trying it before :) thanks for the awesome tip.
I'll add this to the list of TVP tricky shortcuts
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