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Gouache Brushes

Post by Inkyjellys » 13 Jul 2018, 20:34

Hi Everyone,
I have recently started the Tvpaint 11 Trial on my 32 bit laptop.
Now let me just say that i love Tvpaint as a whole (Brushes, interface etc.)
But as a traditional gouache artist I don't seen any gouache brushes. :oops:

I'm just wondering if your gonna add gouache brushes in the future.

If so, I would be very pleased. :) :P


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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by D.T. Nethery » 13 Jul 2018, 20:39

Can you upload some examples of artwork (even just brush stroke samples) showing the kind of brush strokes you want ?
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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by Inkyjellys » 14 Jul 2018, 07:08

Something like this

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Post by CartoonMonkey » 14 Jul 2018, 09:00

I think this is achievable using some textured bitmaps and paper combinations. I'm trying to visualize the way gouache blends vs watercolor. It's more opaque, right?
Should be easy to create. I'll try making some of these brushes in the next week or so...

Also, I've done a tiny bit of gouache painting, and I love it. I would be interested to see more of your work. Do you write about it or have an instagram?


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Post by Paul Fierlinger » 14 Jul 2018, 09:12

I am very interested in this too; have been for years but have never seen anyone come close to the samples shown here.
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Post by Paul Fierlinger » 14 Jul 2018, 09:13

Hey! What has happened to the timed delete button? :( :o
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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by Inkyjellys » 14 Jul 2018, 12:23

Thank you for all your answers.
I sadly dont have a instagram, but i might consider making one :D

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Post by D.T. Nethery » 14 Jul 2018, 13:31

CartoonMonkey wrote:
14 Jul 2018, 09:00
I'm trying to visualize the way gouache blends vs watercolor. It's more opaque, right?
Yes, that will be the main thing to keep in mind ... gouache is an opaque watercolor pigment vs. transparent watercolor (which is what we usually think of when we use the word "watercolor" , thin, transparent washes of color .) Real gouache pigments have more white , which is what makes them thicker and more opaque than watercolor pigment , although gouache can be thinned to make transparent washes.

This video shows a side by side comparison :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzwnP8AyX9w
watercolor_vs_gouache.jpg
I would be very interested to hear from Sandra Fierlinger on this topic , as she has a lot of experience making TVPaint brushes mimic watercolor . A few of her paintings in the gallery remind me of gouache.
sandra_fierlinger_painting_TVPaint.jpg
One of the watercolor brushes contributed in the Contents Sharing forum by Malcooning (I think it was Malcooning ... or was it Hisko ?) has a "Thick" brush that behaves somewhat like gouache.
Transparent Watercolor_vs_Thick(gouache)Watercolor_Brushes.png
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Post by Paul Fierlinger » 14 Jul 2018, 23:03

Sandra emulates the classical watercolor style, in layers but applying transparent colors. Gouache as I understand it, is often laid on similar to oil paint - in thick, but water based layers that can blend into one another as long as the paint remains wet. Sandra fine tunes the density of her colors using the transparency sliders.In gouache, once the base dries, one can add new paint that will cover whatever is below, but again mixes well with other colors as long as they remain wet. Maybe to achieve this effect one has to also use the sliders and not depend only on the way the brush is made.
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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by Inkyjellys » 16 Jul 2018, 05:28

Thanks everyone for your answers. im still trying out Tvpaint and right now i love it even more then Photoshop.




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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by D.T. Nethery » 16 Jul 2018, 12:52

Inkyjellys wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 05:28
Thanks everyone for your answers. im still trying out Tvpaint and right now i love it even more then Photoshop.

Inky (Rachael)
Here are the watercolor brushes I had mentioned in my previous post:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2663

The one labeled "Thick" reminds me of how gouache behaves from what I recall (I haven't used real gouache for painting for many years ... I took the usual number of color theory and painting classes in art school , so I've worked with various types of paint -- watercolor , gouache , acrylic, oil -- , but my primary focus has been animation , I don't really consider myself a skilled painter ... I dabble ...)

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Here is a version of Malcooning's watercolor brushes made by Peter Wassink with more opacity built in:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9019&p=82706

Here are some more watercolor brushes , by Elodie Moog. Keep in mind you can tweak the brush settings , so if these are too "transparent" you could perhaps reproduce more of an opaque gouache look by adjusting the settings. --

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10061&p=93961


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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by Inkyjellys » 16 Jul 2018, 18:22

Thank you for the recommendation. I will try it and post my results later :D :D

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Re: Gouache Brushes

Post by Paul Fierlinger » 16 Jul 2018, 18:55

What's missing in those, if I remember correctly, is the visible result of mixed colors as is so nice in the samples that started this thread and also the sense of unevenly applied thickness of the layering of various paints that makes gouache so desirable by the way it sticks out from other watercolors.

Painting with watercolors, as Sandra does requires much more skills and practice, which I don't have and why I would like to have the availability of gauche. Gauche also serves for painting backgrounds that better fit a rougher drawing style which I at times revert to.
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